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Offline zsguerreiro

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Lean angles
on: April 27, 2021, 02:33:58 PM
Right, Iím a newbie and Iím just wondering what kind of angles youíre getting on twisties?
Iím getting max 37(left) and 34(right) and I seem to be the last of all my friends (with GSís not with the F900XR)ÖI know I suck at cornering but just want to know how much by comparing with people who ride the same bike  :008:

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #1 on: April 27, 2021, 03:42:31 PM
I don't think your lean angle is a really good measurement for how well you corner.  Two people going through the same curve at the same speed but with different body positions can have different lean angles.  I've seen 5d or more difference just playing around myself.  The more you lean your body off the bike the less lean angle you'll have, the more you sit on top of the bike and counter weight, the more lean angle you'll get.  Lean angle may be a cool thing to have on the display, but the only purpose it serves it to tell you how much room for error you have.  If you're still a new rider and getting used to the bike, more room for error is better.  Don't let your friends push you too hard, they won't be the ones recovering if you crash.

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #2 on: April 27, 2021, 07:26:21 PM
Good advice above. If you want to get good at cornering (and I also, am not, yet!) reading books (Twist of the Wrist, Total Control) and getting track instruction, along with practice, are probably the best approaches. I wouldn't worry about lean angle, although admittedly it's cool to see it on the display and in the app.

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #3 on: April 27, 2021, 08:13:51 PM
Oh I second all of the above and I always ride within my limits. No peer pressure here, just curious what angles people are safely getting on their F900XR

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #4 on: April 27, 2021, 09:47:17 PM
There is a pic on this site of someones display showing, I think, 55d.  IIRC it was a track day with better tires.  I personally have not gone past 42d, but that's just me on public roads and I still have about 20mm of chicken strips left, so plenty of room for mistakes or corrections.  I can't count how many times I've come through a turn to face a head-on vehicle that couldn't hold their lane, or a deer, or skunk, or squirrel, or bobcat or coyote, and so on.
Something else to consider is that the degree the turn is banked will greatly impact the lean angle you record.  An off camber turn will see you run out of tire at smaller lean angles where a turn that is banked well can get you a really impressive number and not even hit the foot pegs.

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #5 on: April 28, 2021, 12:38:59 AM
 Time and lots of mileage is also a big key to proficient and complete riding ability. Relax and enjoy the ride and over time you'll be very surprised at how good you become.
 Real Confidence in your tyres as well is another key, the Michelin Road 5s are way better than pretty much anyone's ability IMHO, you've just gotta get your head in that same place.
Escape Realty At Any Cost I Say

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #6 on: May 10, 2021, 04:38:22 AM
Iím getting around max 45d on a good road with nice twisties and no traffic.  There are not many roads where it is possible to do more due to traffic. One would need to go on a track in order to get further to the limit.  Also as already mentioned your riding style makes a big difference. Hanging off the bike keeps the bike more upward but that is a style more suitable for a race track. I like to push my bike into the curve and stay more upright so I have a higher vantage point to look as far as possible ahead into the curve.   Not sure if it helps you.

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #7 on: May 20, 2021, 01:08:44 PM
Does the leanometer come as standard?

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #8 on: May 20, 2021, 04:07:34 PM
*Originally Posted by Skinneroo [+]
Does the leanometer come as standard?
@Skinnero you can set your display into sport mode and can view a gauge that shows the current and max lean angle of your current ride.  Another way is to view your recorded trip in the BMW Motorrad Connect app on your smartphone, which is my preferred way.  There you can see many other stats of your ride and even can replay it.  All of this is standard and is coming with the bike.

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Re: Lean angles
Reply #9 on: May 24, 2021, 01:57:16 PM
NO it an extra lol